The 12th Fleet: Starbase Valhalla

Sysil wrote:

JarekCyphus wrote:

Macha wrote:I stand by my previous statement.

Everyone who owned a Bug beforehand is now going to be seriously p****d off. especially with how they will have paid for it

So much this. SO much this. They could have extended an olive branch to those players by converting the T5-U they likely used into an actual T6 upgrade.

I've got a bug and I'm not mad.

Maybe I've been playing this game too long, maybe I'm just too used to Cryptic not caring about their customers and maybe I've been mad for so long for what Cryptic did to the game that I don't care anymore?

Yeah, probably

Yeah, probably.

I mean I'm surprised I came back after the anniversary fiasco. See, they found a way to ensure players could still get the Ambassador with the last anniversary. Did they give this year and STO's faithful subscribers, lifetimers, etc. the same courtesy? No. Being a lifetimer, I feel in a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario; I didn't have any choice in whether or not to play the game during the anniversary event. I had no damned computer, ffs!

I've made that clear to customer service. Maybe they'll do a one time, maybe I'll be just as screwed as everyone else that missed it, but I feel that act is infinitely more criminal to the subscribers and lifetimers of this game than screwing with existing bug ship owners. I mean at least there will be ways for that ship to remain in circulation. They gated the "Anniversary Ship" with a one-time. I've never been a fan when developers do that, and developers KNOW that's a bad practice, which is why you don't see others doing that, anymore.

That's why there's a strong veteran reward program in place in games like FFXIV:ARR, EverQuest 1&2, and such. SWTOR and WoW refused to do it (for the time being) because they believe in a "go all in or not at all" policy to be fair to their playerbase. Smart. Cryptic's idea of "veteran loyalty" is all over the map, and I'm really REALLY starting to lose my patience with them. Frankly, it's been that way ever since they went with PWE. I'm actually ashamed to admit it seems we've all accepted this, despite MANY of us (myself included) suspecting this kind of thing was going to happen in the first place.

I like this guy.

There isn't anything wrong with gated-rewards for events..if they are cosmetic only. I prefer cosmetic things like that like "hey, I was here at that time, it was fun, got some bling", not tie a gameplay element to it. Smh..

Hohndo wrote:I like this guy.

There isn't anything wrong with gated-rewards for events..if they are cosmetic only. I prefer cosmetic things like that like "hey, I was here at that time, it was fun, got some bling", not tie a gameplay element to it. Smh..

This. So much this. But it was a T6 ship. For an anniversary event. I feel like they've completely forgotten about veteran rewards in this game. Explains why so many of my friends keep leaving, and why those that come back leave after a week.

Even I have been playing ff XIV more and more of late , sto has lost a lot of its appeal ATM

Yeah same. I've been doing other things instead of playing STO. World Of Warships, Star Citizen, BF4 and MGS V.

Same, I'm finding it difficult to log in these days.

log in setup my doffs on two toons, do to cca runs, logout.

been playing other games and been happier for it

rift
firefall
word of warships (soon)
navyfield 2 (meh)
anno 2070
simraceway
hearthstone (now and then)

I don't think anyone can deny how STO has lost appeal. Delta Grinding has hurt morale big-time.

I found having some back up games to play with fleeties are really beneficial. Many of us have had a lot of fun blasting away on Robocraft and hack n slash on Diablo 3.

Back on topic though, I am not browsing the Dominion Motors dealership anytime soon. The Delta Pack will keep me busy for a long time until Fleet versions of them are introduced.

I feel like currently the only reason Im playing STO is because of the short term goals Ive gave myself (SRO Boff, Delta Alliance Ground Set for my Ground Team). But once I hit those...Which will be in a month or so. Im not sure what will keep me logging in. These Events are nice but they are filler. They just dont have the kind of pull to them that gameplay had prior to turn around Cryptic had last summer. The changes starting with Crafting and Delta Rising to top it off with the timegating of Patrols recently. The game isnt what it used to be for me. Now youre expected to log in every day for close to a year to accomplish any sort of goals. Especially if youre the more casual type. I feel a bit of dread logging in everyday now which reminds me of how I felt a bout any crappy job Ive held over the years.

Im sure there are plenty of Whales out there that will continue on in this game like nothings changed. But I feel like Cryptic has chosen to alienate the playerbase, like myself, that is willing to put cash into the system once and a while. But not in a position to spend hundreds every month to get what I want.

Could this be the beginning of the end for STO???