The 12th Fleet: Starbase Valhalla

Torp wrote:

pyriel2005 wrote:Interesting thread, I like the slogan it's short and to the point. I tend to prefer old Ben Franklin when quoting to make my points, but Locke is good too.

one of my favorite Benjamin Franklin quotes; "Any nation that would sacrifice a little liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both."

Wow, that's a really good quote seeing as the patriot act has been introduced the past few years and it seems other countries are watching your every move.

I personally am a big fan of the motto of Dutch coat of arms and royal family: Je maintiendrai (I will maintain) I think this could be fitted into the context of law. I will maintain order/the law. Also french is a pretty language

People have quoted it; me! It's part of my sig on the STO forums. Additionally I used this quote a few times concerning a research paper I did for a business law class a few years ago, and the topic was...you guessed it; The Patriot Act.

Now, back on topic; as far as a slogan goes I am fine with the suggestion put forth already. Like I said short and to the point, very little room for misinterpretation. Though if anyone else has any ideas, then I am sure we will consider them as a group and determine the proper course.

Very cool

Wow, one of the first links I hop on and there's a debate on Locke or Pitt quotes, I think I've found my new home.

JAG would be more than happy to have you

Sadly there was not too much debate, I was wrong. I was quoting Pitt (the Younger I believe), who in turn was quoting Locke...

Mjollnir wrote:Sadly there was not too much debate, I was wrong. I was quoting Pitt (the Younger I believe), who in turn was quoting Locke...

Hey, that's ok. As long as we don't start quoting Brittany Spears and say it was Socrates, we'll be fine.

Indeed Sir!

I like it!

How about "Laws where made to be broken"?..... , wrong side

Some cool quotes then...

Whenever men take the law into their own hands, the loser is the law. And when the law loses, freedom languishes. - Robert Kennedy

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. - Robert Kennedy

Law, without force, is impotent. - Blaise Pascal

Right now we've settled on law and tyranny, but we were looking for an unofficial motto as we may do a fair amount of raiding