pyriel2005 wrote:Interesting thread, I like the slogan it's short and to the point. I tend to prefer old Ben Franklin when quoting to make my points, but Locke is good too.
one of my favorite Benjamin Franklin quotes; "Any nation that would sacrifice a little liberty for a little security, will deserve neither and lose both."
Wow, that's a really good quote seeing as the patriot act has been introduced the past few years and it seems other countries are watching your every move.
I personally am a big fan of the motto of Dutch coat of arms and royal family: Je maintiendrai (I will maintain) I think this could be fitted into the context of law. I will maintain order/the law. Also french is a pretty language
People have quoted it; me! It's part of my sig on the STO forums. Additionally I used this quote a few times concerning a research paper I did for a business law class a few years ago, and the topic was...you guessed it; The Patriot Act.
Now, back on topic; as far as a slogan goes I am fine with the suggestion put forth already. Like I said short and to the point, very little room for misinterpretation. Though if anyone else has any ideas, then I am sure we will consider them as a group and determine the proper course.
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Wow, one of the first links I hop on and there's a debate on Locke or Pitt quotes, I think I've found my new home.
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The 12th Fleet
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Current Mission: Pending
Current Location: Nimbus III =/\= ======================== =/\= "Where law ends, tyranny begins."
Sadly there was not too much debate, I was wrong. I was quoting Pitt (the Younger I believe), who in turn was quoting Locke...
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The 12th Fleet
United Federation of Planets
Assignment: J.A.G. Corps
Current Mission: Pending
Current Location: Nimbus III =/\= ======================== =/\= "Where law ends, tyranny begins."
Mjollnir wrote:Sadly there was not too much debate, I was wrong. I was quoting Pitt (the Younger I believe), who in turn was quoting Locke...
Hey, that's ok. As long as we don't start quoting Brittany Spears and say it was Socrates, we'll be fine.
=/\= ======================== =/\= Stone Graham, Lieutenant Junior Grade
The 12th Fleet
United Federation of Planets
Assignment: J.A.G. Corps, Beta Squad
Current Mission: Staying Alive
Current Location: The expanse =/\= ======================== =/\= "Where law ends, tyranny begins."
=/\= ======================== =/\= Richard Cadoc, Commander
The 12th Fleet
United Federation of Planets
Assignment: J.A.G. Corps
Current Mission: Pending
Current Location: Nimbus III =/\= ======================== =/\= "Where law ends, tyranny begins."
How about "Laws where made to be broken"?..... , wrong side
Some cool quotes then...
Whenever men take the law into their own hands, the loser is the law. And when the law loses, freedom languishes. - Robert Kennedy
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. - Robert Kennedy
Right now we've settled on law and tyranny, but we were looking for an unofficial motto as we may do a fair amount of raiding
=/\= ======================== =/\= Richard Cadoc, Commander
The 12th Fleet
United Federation of Planets
Assignment: J.A.G. Corps
Current Mission: Pending
Current Location: Nimbus III =/\= ======================== =/\= "Where law ends, tyranny begins."
, wrong side 
