Reddit thread on this, 183 comments and counting: http://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/2x ... rike_ship/
For my money, a post by Captain Emeritus says it all:
sticks finger in the air
Beware my friends. Shitwinds are a-comin'.
How to piss off an entire fanbase in 3 easy steps:
1. Obsolete a super-rare and very expensive ship that was, until today, the best pure escort in the game.
2. Establish a precedent where older super-rare and very expensive ships are now eligible to be replaced by almost identical newer, more powerful super-rare and very expensive ships.
3. Tie the newer version of the super-rare and very expensive ship to R&D packs instead of lockboxes.
I can understand if they wanted to make an improved JHAS. That's fine. But to make something that's virtually identical, except where it's better, and give it the same skin as a JHAS is ridiculous. Now, they can fix this by doing two things:
1. Owning a JHSS unlocks the JHAS carrier pets.
2. All JHAS owners can upgrade for free to the JHSS.
Tier 6 Jem'Hadar Strike Ship Stats
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Re: Tier 6 Jem'Hadar Strike Ship Stats
cryptic. do right by the players. ...need a moment to compose myself here...
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Re: Tier 6 Jem'Hadar Strike Ship Stats
I'm rightly pissed off, but I'm absolutely not surprised by this.
Cryptic is out to milk their playerbase for every cent they own, with no regards to player loyalty, the game's balance and taking the minimum effort doing so.
My only hope now is that this game gets the ST license so I can play a Star Trek game that's cared for by it's developers.
Cryptic is out to milk their playerbase for every cent they own, with no regards to player loyalty, the game's balance and taking the minimum effort doing so.
My only hope now is that this game gets the ST license so I can play a Star Trek game that's cared for by it's developers.








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Re: Tier 6 Jem'Hadar Strike Ship Stats
"When we first discussed increasing the level cap, one of the questions we first asked ourselves was “What happens to Tier 5 ships?”
Players have been invested in this tier of ships for 4 years and we wanted to avoid devaluing the time and money spent in obtaining them.
We wanted a fair solution instead of requiring players to absolutely need to obtain or purchase a whole new suite of starships for a new tier of content as we have in the past."
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-t ... il/7002163
So much for that last sentence, eh?
Players have been invested in this tier of ships for 4 years and we wanted to avoid devaluing the time and money spent in obtaining them.
We wanted a fair solution instead of requiring players to absolutely need to obtain or purchase a whole new suite of starships for a new tier of content as we have in the past."
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-t ... il/7002163
So much for that last sentence, eh?
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Ahh, Excalibur. There's so much Dev love being poured into that. Screenshots look amazing, vids look good too. I really hope that they get it finished.Sysil wrote:My only hope now is that this game gets the ST license so I can play a Star Trek game that's cared for by it's developers.
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Re: Tier 6 Jem'Hadar Strike Ship Stats
Technically nobody needs this ship. I have lower tier science ships that I sometimes use for this new content and I always play on elite.

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I think it really depends on what you want to do with the ship. The T6 ships are nice don't get me wrong, (I've got 3 of them myself). T5-U's work great for PvE related content, but if you want any hopes of competing in a PvP match, you're going to need the best of the best. Personally the T6 ships have a clear advantage over the T5-U's or even the T5 ships in a PvP type scenario. I don't even bother going into a PvP match anymore because of the upgraded weapons and ships. It's going to be a long time before I am remotely ready for that.

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Re: Tier 6 Jem'Hadar Strike Ship Stats
No one needs any new ship if they have a reasonably good T5 ship. Then again, even a bad T5 ship can be made to work if you know what you are doing.Husker wrote:Technically nobody needs this ship. I have lower tier science ships that I sometimes use for this new content and I always play on elite.
The problem is PvP is dead. LoR excesses followed by the even more ludicrous DR excesses of the dev have pretty much officially killed it.Kahn wrote:..but if you want any hopes of competing in a PvP match, you're going to need the best of the best. Personally the T6 ships have a clear advantage over the T5-U's or even the T5 ships in a PvP type scenario. I don't even bother going into a PvP match anymore because of the upgraded weapons and ships. It's going to be a long time before I am remotely ready for that.
Examples: One shot by SS3 by a cloaked ship. One shot SS3 by an escort flying so fast it's at 15km by the time you realize you're dead. Killed by your own alpha because the sci ship has FBP. Killed because you can't do anything because you are placated for 5 seconds.
Etc.
Etc.
My recommendation is: don't do PvP. Don't go for the shiny new ship. Get the one you like (Defiant, Sovereign, whatever), upgrade it with how much you can affort and have fun.
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Re: Tier 6 Jem'Hadar Strike Ship Stats
The thing that cracks me up is that the Cryptic people know that what they are doing are going to anger the players. If you read the twitter feeds of some of the employees they knew Wednesday was going to be a difficult day.
Knowing they are angering us they still do it. It's like we are being trolled by Cryptic.
Knowing they are angering us they still do it. It's like we are being trolled by Cryptic.








