The 12th Fleet: Starbase Valhalla

I should mention that I'm on a 720p plasma and I love it, plus it was relatively cheap when I bought it The setup of my room is such that I can't see any pixelation when I'm in the normal viewing position, and I'm far-sided!

I would definitely recommend taking your circumstances into account and get the bare minimum you need, anything more is just a waste.

Definitely LG. I've had mine 7 months, first full HD smart tv I've owned, love it. Great quality, functionality and customisation. Can get apps on the tv and for your smartphone or tablet (confused my daughter by using my phone to mess with the tv while she had the remote lol). Only issue is the fact that it takes a minute or two boot up when you switch it on, leaving you unable to even change the channel.

No Mercy wrote:dont get Sony, your paying for the name trust me...

LG, Samsung and panasonic are the ones to get, better quality for what your paying for and more reliable.

Exactly this, never buy Sony gear.

adastra1930 wrote:I know it's totally throwback but I recommend plasma, unless they've really improved blacks on LED recently. I hate that not-really-black thing esp on games and films. Also don't go for the high refresh rate if you do go LED...I think they look too real, like, if you're watching Dr Who you can really tell it's on a soundstage with rubber alien masks But then I probably sound like one of those guys who argue that Beta max or HD DVD is better lol

Also this. People have argued with me over this and i will just repeat what many an engineer has told me, plasma is the single best picture you can get bar none. It's black really is black, not grey like these new LED screens. I have a Panasonic plasma and it's better than my old LCD and my mates LED. Hell it's better than my IPS monitor.

One more thing, unless you have a 4k source buying a 4k tv is a waste. It will either run at 1080 which all tv's do anyway or it will upscale to 4k from a 1080 or 720 signal which just looks crap.

My advice to anyone buying a tv is to buy a 1080p capable plasma from a good make like LG, Panasonic, Samsung and maybe Philips.

Husker wrote:

adastra1930 wrote:I know it's totally throwback but I recommend plasma, unless they've really improved blacks on LED recently. I hate that not-really-black thing esp on games and films. Also don't go for the high refresh rate if you do go LED...I think they look too real, like, if you're watching Dr Who you can really tell it's on a soundstage with rubber alien masks But then I probably sound like one of those guys who argue that Beta max or HD DVD is better lol

Also this. People have argued with me over this and i will just repeat what many an engineer has told me, plasma is the single best picture you can get bar none. It's black really is black, not grey like these new LED screens. I have a Panasonic plasma and it's better than my old LCD and my mates LED. Hell it's better than my IPS monitor.

It's a OLED, not a LED. There is a big difference, it's not the same technology. OLED puts out better picture than plasma, and you'll find plenty of material online to support this claim.

OLED is only really like 4 years old and it's now at a level where it's affordable. Granted, I do not own a OLED tv but that will be the next thing I buy when I upgrade.

Edit: It's also widely claimed that OLED's black level is better than plasma, but I'll be honest, I never made this comparison. I'm just reading a bunch of these articles and they are saying that.

Husker wrote:One more thing, unless you have a 4k source buying a 4k tv is a waste. It will either run at 1080 which all tv's do anyway or it will upscale to 4k from a 1080 or 720 signal which just looks crap.

My advice to anyone buying a tv is to buy a 1080p capable plasma from a good make like LG, Panasonic, Samsung and maybe Philips.

There is no good reason to buy 4k right now. No one is really using it, and it's a more expensive technology right now because it's that "new" thing people are trying to sell people.

In 3 to 5 years it'll be more of a common place MAYBE. Most people are pretty happy with 1080i currently so I don't think the market will change really fast.

OLED technology goes back to the 50's when i was first discovered. You're probably looking at 80's or 90's when it was first applied to a screen. I remember reading about a Sony 7" OLED screen being sold for £25000 back when i was at school.

With OLED, the OLED pixel actually forms the picture as well as the light source. With regular LED TVs, they're just an LCD with a different light source - instead of a fragile florescent tube along the bottom, you've got an LED array or a row with light pipes. OLEDs can dim or shut off the light per-pixel while still forming an image in it, allowing a truer black than even Plasma could manage. "LED" TVs still have a uniform light source and can't.

Husker wrote:OLED technology goes back to the 50's when i was first discovered. You're probably looking at 80's or 90's when it was first applied to a screen. I remember reading about a Sony 7" OLED screen being sold for £25000 back when i was at school.

Actually I was going for when it actually became a "thing" that that most companies were trying to sell you, not when it was invented. I should have been more clear.

OLED tvs started becoming popular when they needed something to combat plasma TVs, and was probably planned like that because roughly 4 to 5 years after you had got the plasma, the picture gets worse and rather than fixing it, you'll think you need a new TV. In comes OLED which is suddenly more affordable.

It's a marketing strategy. OLED's "cycle" is completing, and with it's end, 4k becomes a thing to market a new product. I thought it would the curve that would catch on but I think reviews are pretty mixed for that.