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cutiesagraz wrote:

Wow...and I thought galaxy's weren't that small

Starfleet ships are tiny. We build ships bigger than most of what starfleet is chucking around even now, with the issues with gravity and newtonian propulsion. Even big stuff like the Galaxy is only just over 600 meters.

Hevach wrote:

halfeclipse wrote:

Nooooo. A borg cube is about 1.8 miles a side and V'ger was over 10 miles tall. Voth city ships in the mean time are only around 6 miles long.

It's not the first time Jamjamz has mixed up the city ship and the fortress ship - the city ship is the dreadnought, and is pretty closely scaled to the show.

That's "better" then, but the scaling is still screwed to hell. Working from the galaxy, the borg cube is half the size it ought be, and V'Ger is at least 7 km too short and needs another 21 km in length. The scaling on the voth fortress ship is screwed no matter how we look at it; If that size is accurate there, then it's far tinier than V'Ger, and if we accept the numbers cryptic claims then it should be nearly as tall as V'Ger is long (60 km height according to Cryptic, V'Ger is 78 km long)

Also the Dreadnaughts aren't City ships. The Dreadnaughts are waaay too small. Those city ships are 10 km long.

Author:	Macha [ Wed April 23rd, 2014 9:18 pm ]
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Via Jamjamz

Author:	halfeclipse [ Wed April 23rd, 2014 9:44 pm ]
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Nooooo. A borg cube is about 1.8 miles a side and V'ger was over 10 miles tall. Voth city ships in the mean time are only around 6 miles long.

Author:	N5XTR [ Wed April 23rd, 2014 11:52 pm ]
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Wait until the Borg assimilate a Voth City Ship.

Author:	cutiesagraz [ Thu April 24th, 2014 12:27 am ]
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Wow...and I thought galaxy's weren't that small

Author:	Hevach [ Thu April 24th, 2014 1:44 am ]
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halfeclipse wrote: Nooooo. A borg cube is about 1.8 miles a side and V'ger was over 10 miles tall. Voth city ships in the mean time are only around 6 miles long. It's not the first time Jamjamz has mixed up the city ship and the fortress ship - the city ship is the dreadnought, and is pretty closely scaled to the show.

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Author:	Metrikon [ Thu April 24th, 2014 4:02 am ]
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cutiesagraz wrote: Wow...and I thought galaxy's weren't that small That's just it, they aren't!

Author:	cmdraftbrn [ Thu April 24th, 2014 4:21 am ]
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cutiesagraz wrote: Wow...and I thought galaxy's weren't that small the galaxy is only 100k light years in diameter

Author:	halfeclipse [ Thu April 24th, 2014 4:57 am ]
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cutiesagraz wrote: Wow...and I thought galaxy's weren't that small Starfleet ships are tiny. We build ships bigger than most of what starfleet is chucking around even now, with the issues with gravity and newtonian propulsion. Even big stuff like the Galaxy is only just over 600 meters. Hevach wrote: halfeclipse wrote: Nooooo. A borg cube is about 1.8 miles a side and V'ger was over 10 miles tall. Voth city ships in the mean time are only around 6 miles long. It's not the first time Jamjamz has mixed up the city ship and the fortress ship - the city ship is the dreadnought, and is pretty closely scaled to the show. That's "better" then, but the scaling is still screwed to hell. Working from the galaxy, the borg cube is half the size it ought be, and V'Ger is at least 7 km too short and needs another 21 km in length. The scaling on the voth fortress ship is screwed no matter how we look at it; If that size is accurate there, then it's far tinier than V'Ger, and if we accept the numbers cryptic claims then it should be nearly as tall as V'Ger is long (60 km height according to Cryptic, V'Ger is 78 km long) Also the Dreadnaughts aren't City ships. The Dreadnaughts are waaay too small. Those city ships are 10 km long.

Author:	Dinkelsen [ Thu April 24th, 2014 10:24 am ]
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I always wondered how the Voth got the city ship inside the dyson shere. I definitly wont fit into the portal and the "door" of the Jenolan sphere was just large enough to let a Galaxy class ship through. But maybe the dyson sphere has got a bigger door somewhere, a "delivery entry" of sorts.

Author:	mark_cameron [ Thu April 24th, 2014 10:55 am ]
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halfeclipse wrote: cutiesagraz wrote: Wow...and I thought galaxy's weren't that small Starfleet ships are tiny. We build ships bigger than most of what starfleet is chucking around even now, with the issues with gravity and newtonian propulsion. Even big stuff like the Galaxy is only just over 600 meters. Hevach wrote: halfeclipse wrote: Nooooo. A borg cube is about 1.8 miles a side and V'ger was over 10 miles tall. Voth city ships in the mean time are only around 6 miles long. It's not the first time Jamjamz has mixed up the city ship and the fortress ship - the city ship is the dreadnought, and is pretty closely scaled to the show. That's "better" then, but the scaling is still screwed to hell. Working from the galaxy, the borg cube is half the size it ought be, and V'Ger is at least 7 km too short and needs another 21 km in length. The scaling on the voth fortress ship is screwed no matter how we look at it; If that size is accurate there, then it's far tinier than V'Ger, and if we accept the numbers cryptic claims then it should be nearly as tall as V'Ger is long (60 km height according to Cryptic, V'Ger is 78 km long) Also the Dreadnaughts aren't City ships. The Dreadnaughts are waaay too small. Those city ships are 10 km long. The city ship doesn't look that big compared to Voyager. 10 kilometers long is apparently the canon spec. That means its only x20 the size of a Galaxy Class. So it's really not that large.

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